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	<title>Comments on: The rule of 25% for calculating restaurant tips</title>
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		<title>By: fred jones</title>
		<link>http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2007/09/05/rule-of-25-for-tipping/comment-page-1/#comment-5322</link>
		<dc:creator>fred jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the world works on the theory that if a restaurant cannot pay it&#039;s staff a fair wage then it is not viable just like any other business why should employees have work for tips? another word for that is SLAVERY

By tipping your simply encouraging restaurants to not pay their staff properly, it&#039;s their responsibility not THE PERSON BUYING SOMETHING FROM THEIR BUSSINESS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the world works on the theory that if a restaurant cannot pay it&#8217;s staff a fair wage then it is not viable just like any other business why should employees have work for tips? another word for that is SLAVERY</p>
<p>By tipping your simply encouraging restaurants to not pay their staff properly, it&#8217;s their responsibility not THE PERSON BUYING SOMETHING FROM THEIR BUSSINESS.</p>
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		<title>By: Presh Talwalkar</title>
		<link>http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2007/09/05/rule-of-25-for-tipping/comment-page-1/#comment-1718</link>
		<dc:creator>Presh Talwalkar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 05:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;Chris Bird&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt;: I like your rule of 6 times the most expensive meal! This will make for very good conversation starters ;)

I do loathe budgeting (thanks for reading that one), but often these rules are similar to the idea of &lt;a href=&quot;http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2008/04/01/focal-points-or-schelling-points-how-we-naturally-organize-in-games-of-coordination/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;focal points&quot;&lt;/a&gt;--a way to converge on agreement or start out with the right frame.

You raise a question about the practice of tipping. I&#039;ve heard interviews with managers that tipping isn&#039;t about money but rather giving an incentive for service. I wonder if this is really true since there are many jobs people seem to work out of duty and they don&#039;t need a tip to perform better.

Tipping also creates problems for people unaware of the customs. Who do I need to tip, and how much? I never know. Nowadays, I&#039;m going to nicer places and finding I need to tip someone to get a towel after I wash my hands. I don&#039;t always have singles, so I feel out of luck. I see many men just run out without washing their hands to avoid the awkward interaction. What a strange result of tipping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><em>Chris Bird</em></b>: I like your rule of 6 times the most expensive meal! This will make for very good conversation starters <img src='http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do loathe budgeting (thanks for reading that one), but often these rules are similar to the idea of <a href="http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2008/04/01/focal-points-or-schelling-points-how-we-naturally-organize-in-games-of-coordination/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;focal points&#8221;</a>&#8211;a way to converge on agreement or start out with the right frame.</p>
<p>You raise a question about the practice of tipping. I&#8217;ve heard interviews with managers that tipping isn&#8217;t about money but rather giving an incentive for service. I wonder if this is really true since there are many jobs people seem to work out of duty and they don&#8217;t need a tip to perform better.</p>
<p>Tipping also creates problems for people unaware of the customs. Who do I need to tip, and how much? I never know. Nowadays, I&#8217;m going to nicer places and finding I need to tip someone to get a towel after I wash my hands. I don&#8217;t always have singles, so I feel out of luck. I see many men just run out without washing their hands to avoid the awkward interaction. What a strange result of tipping.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bird</title>
		<link>http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2007/09/05/rule-of-25-for-tipping/comment-page-1/#comment-1711</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilike this 25% approach and will probably adopt it once I have figured out how to subtract the tax out!

Seriously though, I absolutely hate tipping. I would very much like to see wait staff paid a living wage. Maybe a &quot;government health warning&quot; like, &quot;We pay our wait staff so little that they need tips to survive at all&quot; required in large letters on the fronts of menus at places that don&#039;t pay a living wage. One dirty little secret is that at some of the higher end restaurants the waiters are paid pretty well, and the tips are perks for them. At those kinds of places I generally tip less - at least when I can find out that the wait staff are paid.

To help the kids, I developed a rule of thumb, when dining out at a decent restaurant for 2 including wine, the final bill will be approximately 6 times the cost of the more expensive main course. This is a wildly inaccurate approximation, but does allow me to do a &quot;budget&quot; (yeah, I know I have read the budgeting blog posting)or to make a decision on how much I want to spend, if that is more appropriate in here, for the dinner. I have used this without fail for more than 30 years. It doesn&#039;t help with the tip though :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilike this 25% approach and will probably adopt it once I have figured out how to subtract the tax out!</p>
<p>Seriously though, I absolutely hate tipping. I would very much like to see wait staff paid a living wage. Maybe a &#8220;government health warning&#8221; like, &#8220;We pay our wait staff so little that they need tips to survive at all&#8221; required in large letters on the fronts of menus at places that don&#8217;t pay a living wage. One dirty little secret is that at some of the higher end restaurants the waiters are paid pretty well, and the tips are perks for them. At those kinds of places I generally tip less &#8211; at least when I can find out that the wait staff are paid.</p>
<p>To help the kids, I developed a rule of thumb, when dining out at a decent restaurant for 2 including wine, the final bill will be approximately 6 times the cost of the more expensive main course. This is a wildly inaccurate approximation, but does allow me to do a &#8220;budget&#8221; (yeah, I know I have read the budgeting blog posting)or to make a decision on how much I want to spend, if that is more appropriate in here, for the dinner. I have used this without fail for more than 30 years. It doesn&#8217;t help with the tip though <img src='http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Presh Talwalkar</title>
		<link>http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2007/09/05/rule-of-25-for-tipping/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>Presh Talwalkar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kyle: That&#039;s why we always let you calculate the tip :)

@David: Another fun game is to pit your children against each other by letting them guess the total bill (without seeing the receipt). It&#039;s amazing how quickly a child can learn a $100 is really not that much money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kyle: That&#8217;s why we always let you calculate the tip <img src='http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@David: Another fun game is to pit your children against each other by letting them guess the total bill (without seeing the receipt). It&#8217;s amazing how quickly a child can learn a $100 is really not that much money.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2007/09/05/rule-of-25-for-tipping/comment-page-1/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calculating tip with pen and paper was how my mom taught me about how to multiply and add numbers with decimals when I was a kid.  So if you happen to have a small child with you, tipping can be a learning experience.  Otherwise, of the listed methods here, I&#039;d say 25% is the fastest, especially with the easy calculation from menu price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calculating tip with pen and paper was how my mom taught me about how to multiply and add numbers with decimals when I was a kid.  So if you happen to have a small child with you, tipping can be a learning experience.  Otherwise, of the listed methods here, I&#8217;d say 25% is the fastest, especially with the easy calculation from menu price.</p>
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