Game Theory scene from A Beautiful Mind

Two Introductory Announcements

First, welcome to the Mind Your Decisions “week of skepticism.” All this week I will address misguided or crooked financial advice. The general theme is to be more careful about advice from people who sell you products or don’t consider strategic implications. Especially watch for well-intentioned but poorly reasoned advice, as I discuss today.

Second, I want to announce the newly launched website BrazenCareerist.com. I am one of the fifty bloggers of the blog network. If you’re young and looking for great career advice, see the full blog list to explore for yourself or subscribe to the feed for hand-picked highlights. My articles have already been featured a couple of times in the feed and have generated some interested comments. See the gender discussion I inadvertently started in my trust article and a nice compliment about my risk article.

Today’s Game

The motivation for today’s skepticism comes from a scene from the excellent movie A Beautiful Mind. The scene is about how to pick up women at a bar. You can watch the following two and a half minute clip from the movie (highly recommended), or read my summary of the problem below.

Video: Bar Scene from A Beautiful Mind

The Problem

You and three male friends are at a bar trying to pick up women. Suddenly one blonde and four brunettes enter in a group. What’s the individual strategy?

Here are the rules. Each of you wants to talk to the blonde. If more than one of you tries to talk to her, however, she will be put off and talk to no one. At that point it will also be too late to talk to a brunette, as no one likes being second choice. Assume anyone who starts out talking to a brunette will succeed.

The Movie

Nash suggests the group should cooperate. If everyone goes for the blonde, they block each other and no one wins. The brunettes will feel hurt as a second choice and categorically reject advances. Everyone loses.

But what if everyone goes for a brunette? Then each person will succeed, and everyone ends up with a good option.

It’s a good thought, except for one question: what about the blonde?

The Equilibrium

The movie is directed so well that it sounds persuasive. But it’s sadly incomplete. It misses the essence of non-cooperative game theory.

A Nash equilibrium is a state where no one person can improve, given what others are doing. This means you are picking the best possible action in response to others—the formal term is you are picking a best response. (For more, see my article on why Nash equilibrium exist).

As an example, let’s analyze whether everyone going for a brunette is a Nash equilibrium. You are given that your three of your friends go for brunettes. What is your best response?

You can either go for the brunette or the blonde. With your friends already going for brunettes, you have no competition to go for the blonde. The answer is clear that you would talk to the blonde. That’s your best response. Incidentally, this is a Nash equilibrium. You are happy, and your friends cannot do better. If your friends try to talk to the blonde, they end up with nothing and give up talking to a brunette. So you see, when Nash told his friends to go for the brunettes in the movie, it really does sound like he was leaving the blonde for himself.

The lesson: advice that sounds good for you might really be better for someone else. Be skeptical of the strategic implications.

Now, in practical matters it will be hard to achieve the equilibrium that only one person goes for a blonde. There is going to be competition and someone in the group will surely sabotage the mission. So there are two ways you might go about it using strategies outside the game. One is to ignore the current group and wait for another group of blondes (the classic “wait and see” strategy). The second is to let a random group member go for the blonde as the others distract the brunettes (also practiced as “wingman theory”).

Buying Used Products

Many personal financial articles tell you to buy used products. Here’s a small sampling:

The Stuff I Never Buy Used

Why First-Rate Folks Love Second-Hand Stuff

This advice sounds good for you, but could it be even better for the writer? Let’s do a thought experiment to find out.

Imagine you and all the readers listen to those people. Suppose enough people really stopped buying new products and created a large demand for used products.

This would in turn make used products priced higher as people recognize unrealized value. Used products would no longer be great bargains, and consequently, new products would relatively become less expensive as their resale value increases—that is, buying new would be the bargain choice.

The first people to recognize this would likely be personal finance experts, who have diverted your attention so they can buy new products without competition (i.e. go for the blonde). After the trend is clear, the advisers would turn around and write articles advising you to buy new products, starting the cycle once again.

The overall point is that friendly financial advice is part of a competitive game. It might be good for you, but better for the adviser. Talk is cheap. Unless I learn some real information or strategy, why should I listen to it?

This is why I am skeptical and consider much personal finance advice to be insulting. So much of it is the equivalent of a friend telling me to go for the brunette.

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  1. 10 Responses to “Game Theory scene from A Beautiful Mind”

  2. Great post. I want to expand a little bit on the used market as this is one of my pet-peeves.

    There some logical problems with the “buy used” argument. First, a used market is only possible if there are people wanting to buy new. Second, although used products are cheaper than new products, the analysis often fails to account for resale value. It is amazing people forget this point.

    This is what I would tell those “experts” who tell us what we should do. I’d tell them that we know used products are cheaper. We all have bought used products before. We get it!

    Our issues are psychological and practical. I don’t buy used furniture since I don’t trust previous owners. But I do buy used kitchenware since I can sanitize it.

    By Frugal Reader on Mar 10, 2008

  3. Frugal Reader: Those are excellent points. I wish I would have thought of them.

    By Presh Talwalkar on Mar 11, 2008

  4. Well, I think the used / new product comes down to risk , which is semi-discussed in the post (like buying a used-house, make sure its been checked out…)

    For certain items the risk is very little, used-cds / movies etc might be unplayable, but its easier to see a scratched up disc vs checking all the components in a used car.

    But, there is also risk in buying something new, even a new car can have issues, but you’ll have a warranty to cover you, something that is rare for a used product to carry.

    Mr. Frugal brings up an interesting point, he can’t really clean the used furniture….who knows what risky biological organisms it might contain, but used kitchenware…you could drop that in a pot of boiling water which should take care of everything.

    That last point relates to Presh’s post about washing his hands after taking out the trash, there’s a cost (rewashing his hands) associated with being 100% sure. The cost for the kitchenware is minor, just sanitize them, but for something like a used house…there’s a much higher cost in inspecting that.

    By RohoMech on Mar 13, 2008

  5. RohoMech: I agree risk is an issue, and another point people forget is that risk is supposed to be priced in the market. Riskier bonds have the potential for higher returns, just as risky used products can allow you to save but get a good product.

    The advice to buy used only makes sense if risk is mis-priced. I agree it might be mis-priced now, or under valued, as the case may be, but it won’t be if more people demand them.

    I like your point that there’s a cost to refurbishing products. Old electronics are not always salvageable because the cost to fix them is large enough to make people just get a new one. Companies take advantage of this–think of how expensive iPod batteries are as an example.

    By Presh Talwalkar on Mar 13, 2008

  6. This is a very nice article.

    It keeps me thinking. There are some similarities between this theory with Corporate Games aka Political Games that I am blogging.

    Corporate Games aka Office Politics (Part 2)

    Keep up the good work.

    By Susan Lim on May 14, 2008

  7. Susan Lim: Thanks for the comment and encouragement. I checked out your article and it sounds very interesting.

    By Presh Talwalkar on May 14, 2008

  8. Hello,
    Notice that the video (the bar scene) is no longer available.

    I came across this interesting article

    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/11/business/economic-scene-you-ve-seen-movie-now-just-exactly-what-was-it-that-john-nash-had.html

    By Benjamin Vitale on Jul 6, 2009

  9. Thanks for the article link Ben.

    (I have also fixed the video link for the movie, but since it is copyrighted material I cannot be sure it will remain up!)

    By Presh Talwalkar on Jul 26, 2009

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