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		<title>By: PavanMS</title>
		<link>http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2009/04/07/game-theory-and-salary-transparency/comment-page-1/#comment-11998</link>
		<dc:creator>PavanMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 15:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another solution:

1.A writes his salary = A + random number

2.A asks B to add a particular number to his salary and send it to C.(C is not told what the number is).
B writes his salary + random2.

3. A asks C(B does not know this) to subtract from the total, (random number)+(random2). C then gets the correct sum and finds the average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another solution:</p>
<p>1.A writes his salary = A + random number</p>
<p>2.A asks B to add a particular number to his salary and send it to C.(C is not told what the number is).<br />
B writes his salary + random2.</p>
<p>3. A asks C(B does not know this) to subtract from the total, (random number)+(random2). C then gets the correct sum and finds the average.</p>
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		<title>By: Game Theory and Lying About Your Salary &#124; Spies and Lies Blog</title>
		<link>http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2009/04/07/game-theory-and-salary-transparency/comment-page-1/#comment-7319</link>
		<dc:creator>Game Theory and Lying About Your Salary &#124; Spies and Lies Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by lancepriest   Started with the intention of writing about lying during exercises with others, like this one posted on Mind Your Decisions where they do an excellent job of incorporating game theory into [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by lancepriest   Started with the intention of writing about lying during exercises with others, like this one posted on Mind Your Decisions where they do an excellent job of incorporating game theory into [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Vitale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Vitale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suppose you have only 2 players: A and B.
Both want to know who gets more salary but they won&#039;t disclose their salaries to each other. How both can know who gets more and who gets less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose you have only 2 players: A and B.<br />
Both want to know who gets more salary but they won&#8217;t disclose their salaries to each other. How both can know who gets more and who gets less?</p>
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		<title>By: Presh Talwalkar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Presh Talwalkar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that interesting discussion &lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dave&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scott&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.

It seems like no scheme is liar proof and immune from all-but one collusion. I suspect these are reasons much salary information is obtained anonymously or from a single trusted source rather than through a voluntary exchange among people who don&#039;t trust each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that interesting discussion <b><em>Dave</em></b> and <b><em>Scott</em></b>.</p>
<p>It seems like no scheme is liar proof and immune from all-but one collusion. I suspect these are reasons much salary information is obtained anonymously or from a single trusted source rather than through a voluntary exchange among people who don&#8217;t trust each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott

The problem is once again, if any player was going to lie (which is essentially what the colluding players are doing, since the terms were that each player provide their salary; something a colluding player is now refusing to do i.e. the refusal can be mathematically considered either null, or a &quot;made up salary&quot; with no value) and collude in the first place, then there are no solutions for this game. Even with the standard solution, there&#039;s no way to go around this problem.

I re-iterate, the point of this solution isn&#039;t doing what the standard solution cannot address, it&#039;s just a simpler way of accomplishing the same tasks, given certain conditions. The most important condition in this question is that players do not lie. If they don&#039;t lie, they will not collude either. If they do lie, then there are no solutions, since they will all be inclined to lie, and no one gives out their real salary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott</p>
<p>The problem is once again, if any player was going to lie (which is essentially what the colluding players are doing, since the terms were that each player provide their salary; something a colluding player is now refusing to do i.e. the refusal can be mathematically considered either null, or a &#8220;made up salary&#8221; with no value) and collude in the first place, then there are no solutions for this game. Even with the standard solution, there&#8217;s no way to go around this problem.</p>
<p>I re-iterate, the point of this solution isn&#8217;t doing what the standard solution cannot address, it&#8217;s just a simpler way of accomplishing the same tasks, given certain conditions. The most important condition in this question is that players do not lie. If they don&#8217;t lie, they will not collude either. If they do lie, then there are no solutions, since they will all be inclined to lie, and no one gives out their real salary.</p>
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